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I always supposed that once I progress from my 125 I'd be getting a top box, now I know for sure.
The underside of the bag has a strap that can go under the removable pillion seat.
Annoyingly those slots are far too narrow to fit anything in. I had been counting on them without having taken a proper look. Oops. Having learnt that lesson, have now checking that the straps are long enough to complete an across, down, under and up circuit of the tail.
The day I load up and travel, I'll have oodles of time, so I'm sure trial and error will get it to a satisfactory arrangement
I personally would be cautious of securing a roll bag solely to a removable pillion seat.
The latching mechanism is normally a spigot with a recess going into a hole which has a slider catch enabling removal and refitting. In proper use the pillion has someone's derrier pushing it down. The leverage and potential push back from you on the riders seat could be enough force to detach the seat and roll bag.
I'm not going to.
There's the underside strap going under the locked down pillion seat.
There will be two straps going to and from the rear corners of the bag, ducking under the tail by two different routes.
From each of the two front corners will be straps going down the sides of the bike.
I would buy a rear rack to give better options.
I have lots of bags that have mounting points,D rings etc.
Like this one I still find it much more secure as described below.
https://www.lomo.co.uk/products/15l-...AuOTg3NjcwODIx
In the end the best way to secure any bag is 2 straps crossed over using Rok straps.
https://rokstraps.com/
Last edited by bwest76; Today at 10:23.
Acknowleging that DA isn't doing that - you are right. I have a small topbox that is bolted to a spare pillion pad on my R-1 (bought as an assembly). I used it once and was very much aware of the upward momentum of the box and that it was only the latch holding it in place. Not used it since. (must bung it on facebook marketplace) but even on soft bags, - anything under the seat is just a slight security addition.
Good securing of a soft bag using a combo of lightweight webbing straps and strong bungees is the order of the day. Usually the webbing straps need slight adjustment as the bag relaxes.
I'm a huge fan of Raptor Straps. I got a bunch from Costco years ago. They have the benefit of gripping the cargo as well as tying down. Great for cases of beer on the 'supermarket run' on the pillion. They also appear to be impervious to UV degredation - I had one on my wheely bin lid for years, and on my trailer anti-theft bracket. Link them together if you need extra length. Soft ends - better then hooks or carabiners.
Think you can get them in blue & red also.
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